The Body as an Instrument: Nurturing the Health and Wellness of Black Music Makers

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[00:00:00] Intro Theme

[00:00:30] Welcome to Queue Points

DJ Sir Daniel: Welcome back to another episode of Queue Points podcast. The podcast that's dropping the needle on black music history. I am DJ Sir Daniel. And my

Jay Ray: name is Jay Ray, sometimes known by my government as Johnnie Ray Kornegay III. and

yo,

DJ Sir Daniel: it's happening. It's happening. We're here. We're here. We are live and in effect.

This is our very first, first of all, welcome and happy International Podcast Day. By the time you're listening to this, this is International Podcast Day. And, you know, Jay Ray, we decided to do it real big and do a live recording of Queue Points for International Podcast Day, cause why not?

Jay Ray: Why not? And first of all, this is just such a monumental moment.

Folks have been asking us, all of y'all have been asking us to do something live. So being able to do this in our home of Atlanta, to have all of y'all beautiful faces surrounding us,

yo, this is a big

Jay Ray: deal. It's wild. So just thank you.

DJ Sir Daniel: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And now you all get to see how the, how the hot dogs are made.

Yeah. You get to see what we do behind the scene, behind the scenes and you know, all the madness that it takes to create this wonderful show. Um, you and uh, our, one of our guests were talking earlier about how long we've been doing this. This is, we're c- we're up on three years y'all. We're ...Can you believe that? Three

years

DJ Sir Daniel: of Queue points

[00:01:57] Health, Aging & Mortality

DJ Sir Daniel: podcast.

Um, a lot of firsts, a lot of greats. And, um, a lot of great things that have been happening and I'm super excited to, to kick it off. Cause today we are live. Like Jay Ray said, we are r- recording live in, um, Atlanta Buckhead specifically because we are broadcasting live from the Fit360 fitness center. Ow, ow, ow. And, um, because today Jay Ray, we're talking about the fitness factor, Yes. the fitness factor, because e- Even at the beginning of this show, Mm-hmm ... we have always incorporated, um, health and health mindedness, um, in our discussions because L- It's no secret. Yeah ...We're Gen Xers, right? Yeah. Uh, most of our audience or most of our listeners are Gen Xers and we're getting up there. Mm-hmm. I, I just celebrated uh, my 48th birthday Yeah. and I like you give it up 'Cause there are a lot of people, you know, shout out to, you know, let's think about the people that w- haven't made it to 48.

Mm-hmm. So you have to be thankful for the age that you are right now. Right. And so, Um, in doing this podcast, Jay Ray, we were experiencing a lot of losses Yes. when it comes to the, um, the people that we like to honor on our show, we were experiencing a lot of losses, a lot of people, a lot of entertainers that we lo- look up to were passing away Yep ...at very early ages.

And so that sparked our discussion about health and the things that we go through 'cause we've been going, we've gone through our own fitness journeys Absolutely throughout our lives, right?

Jay Ray: Yeah. So. One of the things with Queue Points we didn't wanna shy away from, of course, even though we discuss music as the core of our podcast.

Like DJ Sir Daniel said, so many of our legends, we were losing. When we first started the show, we felt like every week, Yep ...we were saying rest in peace to someone. And it got to the point where we would talk about someone and they would pass away Mm-hmm ...in close Succession to when we talked about them, right? And so, because we've been, I- I'ma speak for me personally, I've been up and down the fitness road and recognize for me personally how important it is to figure it out.

And try not to get discouraged if I fail or fall down with it. And that happens. It just happened on my vacation. I was doing so good up until I went on vacation and I was like, Yeah ...you know what? I ain't gonna worry about nothing. I'm on vacation, baby. I've been back for three weeks and I have not gotten back into it.

And my first instinct was to beat myself up about it. Wow. Yeah. But. I have to not listen to that voice and so the fitness factor and us being here and having y'all here one ready to work out what what the folks can't see is that people have sweat rags and shorts

DJ Sir Daniel: They got their shorts

on, and everything. you know You know, and, and and I don't see any headbands though, no sweatbands. No headbands or leg warmers.

no. Okay, I was looking for leg warmers. I mean, come on guys. What what are we doing here? Okay. Next time. Next time Can we, can we talk about this?

Jay Ray: Do you know what I don't? I don't know what leg warmers are for. Do you know what they

were for? They- Who knows what leg warmers

DJ Sir Daniel: were for? They were decorative, right? They were de- They were strictly decorative.

Right. Basically an accessory, thank you. And so, you know. And that, but to your point, Jay Ray, speaking of clothing, Many of our friends are here. Y'all have seen me. I have been every size. I think. And from my early 20s up until now. I think I've my highest. I'll be transparent. My highest. I w- I was almost 400 pounds at one point.

My lowest. I think I may have gotten down to like 199. Mm-hmm. So I've been, I've been everywhere, everywhere in between the gamut. So I know the struggle is very hard. Some days you just feel like, what's the point? You know, Jay Ray, you know, what's the most frustrating thing is when it's time to eat and you have no clue what you're gonna eat, but you know, you wanna eat and you can't decide what you're gonna eat.

Mm-hmm. You know, I think, and again, to what you were, to your point earlier about beating yourself up. So that is why we're here today. And that's why we're not only gonna be speaking about music, but we also are speaking to a friend of ours as well. Friends of the show, a master trainer and the owner of this facility that we're in Fitzroy Smith will be joining us Mm-hmm ...later on in the podcast.

And we're gonna talk to him about those things, about the things that we beat ourselves up about r- when it comes to our personal fitness journeys. But, Jay Ray, look, we gonna have some fun, too, 'Cause, you know, r- before the show started, before we hit record, we had the music playing in the background. Yes.

And, you know, we were jamming, Mm-hmm ...as we always do.

Jay Ray: So the question... We're Miami, too. You had some Miami vibes. You

[00:07:01] Favorite Fitness Songs & Playlists

Jay Ray: know,

DJ Sir Daniel: I had, I had the hard-hitting, you know, the bass vibes going on, but I wanna find out... What is your favorite fitness song? Because we've discussed this before, and I'm and curious, what what songs get you pumped?

What song gets you hyped?

Jay Ray: O- Okay, okay, okay. So, there's actually three. Mm-hmm. There's three songs that, that really kinda send me up. One is uh, M.O.P.'s Ante

DJ Sir Daniel: Up.

Nice.

Jay Ray: M.O.P.'s Ante up, I don't care if you are not into hip hop when you are working out a- and Ante up comes on, especially with that beginning,

DJ Sir Daniel: synth, that ante- Oh, yes.

Kipper Jones: The world is

Jay Ray: about to come in ... oh, and then

the beat drops.

You can do anything. I promise you Yes. that little stair climber that's out there that I hate. I can do that when Ante up comes

DJ Sir Daniel: on. Right. So And you're gonna rob somebody afterwards? too ...You

Jay Ray: can rob somebody afterwards. Right. So Ante up definitely one. Um, Deja Vu by Beyonce Oh ...is a great cardio song Mm-hmm. because it ha- just has the perfect tempo for you to tip.

Like I could be on the, uh, on the elliptical and I can like do a little like whine a little bit to that. So that joint and my very last one, um, that really is new, um, Cash In Cash Out Pharrell featuring 21 Savage and um- Ah Tyler, the creator.

Uh-huh. My

Jay Ray: goodness. And, and that song, much like Ante Up, just has kind of a revving component Mm-hmm ...that makes it, makes it something that I can, can do.

So those are kinda my three get up, get moving fitness songs.

Now, what are yours?

DJ Sir Daniel: Ooh. well, you know, me, I'm all over the place. So, you know, like I was, we were playing earlier, we were playing a lot of, um, bass songs, a lot of, you know, stuff that has a lot of kick to it. And, you know, let's just go old school.

Let's just, you know, Push It Mm-hmm ...is like the all-time aerobics. Song, best aerobics song ever made, you know, it's what people, you know, anybody could work out to it. It's got the tempo that lends itself to bringing up your heart rate. So we've got push it, um, when it comes to lifting weights and things of that nature, you know, Ante up is really good, Mm-hmm. but I'm thinking like, um, a Busta rhymes, um, I'ma take it back.

The um, the scenario remix. Yes. What's the scenario remix? Mm-hmm. Um, a nice rough rugged and raw kind of, kind of beat to work out to. A little, a little cussing and you know, j- something to get your frustrations out about. And um, Last, since we're doing three, I'm gonna pick some reggae. Okay. I'm gonna pick a little, you know, something that, that in my earbuds, and people please wear, we, people please wear your eb- earbuds.

I'm doing a quick PSA. When you're out working out, Yes ...especially if you're working out in public, nobody wants to hear your pill speaker with you. Do not bring that to the gym. I'm telling, saying it right now. Spread the gospel, everybody. No pill speakers in public gyms whatsoever. Anyway, so back to the song. I'm going to do, um, Batty Rider, Um, by Buju Banton. Oh, wow. Yeah. It's, that's the name of the song, Batty Rider. and it's talking about shorts, but, uh, Uh- ...anything from the '90s, um, dancehall.

Mm-hmm. mad lion, you know, shoot to kill anything like that. Perfect workout songs for me.

[00:10:44] Gym Mishaps: Forgotten Headphones

Jay Ray: So you actually just brought up something interesting. One of the things, and I've had to just eat it.

If this happens, you get to the gym. This is the worst feeling. You are so ready to work out and you get to the gym and you don't have your earbuds. W- So the question is, what do you do? So, Sir Daniel, what

would

DJ Sir Daniel: you do? Y- You, you knuckle up and you just do it and listen to what that Britney Spears or whatever the oontz oontz music is playing overboard, over, overhead.

You just go ahead and get into that 'Cause no, you do not pull out your phone and play music from your speaker. Yes. You, It's a, that's a no-no. That's a cardinal sin. So.

Jay Ray: I am from the school of just go back home and get them more often. I'll just like drive back, go get them. And what typically happens, especially now that I live at home with my mom, she'll be like, what happened?

That was a fast workout. I'm like, baby, I didn't do nothing. I lost my headphones." So I'm curious Whoop, whoop, folks. So cheer if you are a just suck it up and work out person. So

cheer if that's you. Okay, . So we

Jay Ray: got, who is a, I'm going back to get my headphones. Cheer, if

that's

you. We got a lot of that. Okay.

Okay. .

You

DJ Sir Daniel: know, if you, if you live a good way away, God bless you. 'cause if I go back to the house, there's a strong possibility that I'm not leaving again. , it's a wrap for the rest of the day. It's like, you know what? I didn't do it. I, I'll do it tomorrow. I'll get to it tomorrow. And, but you know, that's, that's something that we all battle with the thought of, uh, you know, is there enough time?

Do I have enough time in the day? Do I have enough time in my schedule? Um, am I too big to be working out? Mm-hmm. Am I, you know, am I too old? Mm-hmm. and I think that's the point of today's show is that it's never too late. Yeah. It's absolutely never too late to do something, to get moving. And I believe that is what we are.

That's the the message that we have today Mm-hmm ...is to keep moving. Um, no matter what, Yeah. do what you can do, whatever brings you joy as well. That's what you do because if it, if it, if you hate it. Yeah ...If you hate the type of exercise that you're gonna do or, um, workout that you're gonna do, the l- least likely, the less likely you are, you are to do it, Yeah. right?

And so if you know you like taking walks, you know, go out there and take a walk, put on a weighted vest if you need or to give you some Mm ...little extra, you know, tension or whatever. But Go out there and walk. That means you, the the likelihood is going to increase that you are going to do that. So, that's what we're gonna talk about Mm-hmm ...today on this episode of the Fitness Factor of Queue Points podcast.

Jay Ray, when we come back!

Yes ...after this break, um, we are going to be speaking with a music legend. Yes. Bona fide music legend. A bona fide music legend. And you're gonna know why when he gets onto my, literally, we're gonna a- we're gonna ask him to start paying rent because he's pre- he's pretty much been a part of all of our, a lot of our shows.

Yeah. So he's pretty much the third cast member of Queue Points podcast. And, um, we're gonna talk to him shortly. He's gonna join us and we're gonna have some fun and talk about, um. performance, Mm-hmm ...um, what it takes to be a performer, not just behind the mic and in the studio, but on stage. So stay right there.

This is Queue points podcast, dropping the needle on black music history. We'll be right

back after this.

[00:14:33] TROY Podcast Mid-Roll

[00:15:19] Kipper Jones Joins the Show

Welcome,

Jay Ray: welcome, welcome back to Queue Points, y'all. We are live at Fit360 here in Buckhead.

Let me hear y'all in the room, in the building.

All

DJ Sir Daniel: right. look, I'm, I'm out here talking to the people and forgetting that we, we got a, a, a ad running. For our c- our Canadian cousins, the Troy, the reminisce over you podcast. Make sure you guys check that out. They are absolutely a great podcast, but we are here. We are at the Fit360 fitness center in Buckhead.

We are broadcasting live in Atlanta guys. It's international podcast day. And we, you know, like Jay Ray said, we're doing a extra special show. And we're talking about the fitness factor and, you know, music and fitness for us go hand in hand. So, you know, during our planning sessions, we're always talking about what, what, what can we, who can we talk to?

Right. Then we say, you know what, let's call up our brother Mm-hmm. because he is a bonafide, legendary singer-songwriter, activist. Working artist. Yes. because that's a really big deal, Mm-hmm. working artist. our friend, please welcome to the show, Mr. Kipper Jones. Let's make some

noise for Kipper Jones, y'all.

DJ Sir Daniel: Kipper, uh, Before we get started, we wanna... Look-

Kipper Jones: you sit here and you wonder who in the world, Who's

he talking

DJ Sir Daniel: about? He's talking about you. What are you talking about, brother? That's crazy. We talking

about you because this past week, yeah, you had a, a big anniversary.

Tell the people what happened earlier this week, Well- 20, what 29 years

[00:17:10] Celebrating 29 Years of Brandy's Debut

Kipper Jones: ago, 29, Mm. but next year's gonna be the big one. Mm-hmm. The big one. But, uh, 29 years ago last week, we released the debut album for Brandy. Mm-hmm. Um, and I wrote that very first single, which was I Wanna Be Down. Yes, yes. And that was 29 years ago. Ain't that crazy? That's crazy? There's a kid who trains here at the gym.

I had this conversation with him before. And I asked him, I was like, hey man, do you know Brandy? And he was like...

No.

What? And

Jay Ray: we would be like... And then

I,

Kipper Jones: I was like, yeah, how old are you? And he was like, 28. And I

was like, ah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

That makes sense. So 29 years ago, I am now a part of ancient black history, but I just, It's, it's just awesome to just see these things happen, man.

And d- and realize it was

[00:17:57] The Physical Toll of Performing

DJ Sir Daniel: 29 years ago. And the best part is that we're all here Yes ...to celebrate with you. Amen. Amen. That's the best part about it. So tell us about. As an artist, what does it feel like for an artist physically? After performing, because I just saw a report recently that, um, Beyonce, who is, um, who has gone on this tremendous world tour, Mm-hmm ...uh, reduced some of the dates, right?

Mm-hmm. And so, you know, I'm always on Twitter looking at, you know, on black Twitter, we're always talking about everything and people are like, shoot, she cut out shows. She's, she's, It's a lot, man ...she stopped shows. Uh, yeah. yeah, like. Kipper, what, I know you don't know specifically what Beyonce goes through, but what is it like for a artist when you are on stage, you're singing, you're dancing physically, what does that do to you?

Okay. So a couple

Kipper Jones: of things, um, that whole world of performance on that level Mm-hmm is so incredibly physically demanding. First of all, you, y- you're, you're engaged from the crown of your head to the soles of your feet. Your brain is engaged 'cause you're having to do, you know, you got all this stuff to remember and to do and spots and places and, and she's got lifts and cranes and all that kind of stuff.

So it's like tremendously demanding physically. Um, but to that point, I wanna say this, and I've known, I've known that, that young lady since what, uh, I don't know, she was like 16. Mm. They were. They were kids down in- Yeah, four. yeah, maybe so. They were like, yeah, teenagers anyway, preteens and teenagers. And we went to Houston and.

When I tell you that them, them girls were everything running on treadmills with heels on and not out of brea- and singing Right. and singing, um, the whole time that, that kinda training, they were training for something. Um, they were working toward something. Yes. They were working toward this. What are they now?

Like the largest selling black uh- Yeah ...female R&B group- Training, yep

in history. Mm-hmm. Um, that's what they were working toward, but they were working toward it. And so The other thing I wanted to mention is, and we're talking about Beyonce, but it works with all of us who are striving to be entertainers, maybe which I'm a artist. I'm talking about entertainers and they may be Mm-hmm two different things, but, um, work ethic.

Mm-hmm. Beyonce is out of her mind. She's not even talking to, I mean, she's not there when she's working. Mm-hmm. She's, she's working and she is totally into what she's doing. So she's on time 'cause she's not gonna disrespect anybody's money or anything like that. So, sh- you know, all of those things that go into a, a great work ethic.

So I'm sure her fitness routine is just that. It is, it is. Of that work ethic, and I'm so glad Fitz is here. now, so I can say it in his face, he has really helped me with my work ethic about Mm ...being up and getting here at 8:00 in the morning. I mean, I'd be 8:15, and c- traffic in Atlanta is a beast, but uh, you know, it, it's, it's the work toward it.

If you can work toward it, yes. Then you can get over there to that, to that place, you know? Um, I don't know if that answered your question.

DJ Sir Daniel: No, it absolutely did, and and I want you to, to to even delve deeper, the difference between a artist and a entertainer. Yes. You brought that up. Just, just briefly tell us, in your opinion, what's the difference between a artist and a

[00:21:38] Artist vs. Entertainer

DJ Sir Daniel: entertainer?

Kipper Jones: Right. So. in the year of our Lord, 2023. Anyway. Hey, Michelle

We're

live

Shut

Kipper Jones: up. but in, the... I don't have my glasses on. and I'm sitting here- Right. ...she look like Michelle . I saw her

Jay Ray: coming

over there. I was like, we're live. So,

Okay.

Kipper Jones: but um, no, really in, in 2023, anybody can be an artist. Mm. Anybody don't even have to be a person to be an artist. Oh. Come on, AI. Say that. That's real. Um, Yeah, right? So, um, it's, They're, they're really definitely two separate things in, in that regard.

But, I, you know, I'm a little older. I'm, I'll be 62 in January. I, um, Woo-hoo ...my point of reference is different. Mm-hmm. Uh, when I, s- when I say entertainer. I'm talking about Sammy Davis Jr. I'm talking about Jackie Wilson. I'm certainly talking about James Brown Mm-hmm ...and Little Richard. Um, and you know, I don't, I don't even say Michael Jackson's name because Yeah ...it's like a given.

Right. Right. Right? He's, he's the given. Um, so to, that's the tradition of when I speak of entertainer that I'm always thinking of. So me, if you've ever seen my performance, you know, it's very physical. Yes, It's, it's not. I'm not s- standing in one. I'm not Michael Franks, who I love, but good Lord move, man. Um- ...it's yeah, I- I'm moving and, and engaging.

And I mean, and all that stuff is physically exhaustive. Previous to 2015, however, I was doing that, um, three sets a night from 9:00 to 1:00 every, Hard every Friday night, Every one. um, without fail, Yeah. um, I think I missed a couple. I missed the one when my dad passed and I still showed up to the gig. I di- I just had got someone

[00:23:44] Kipper's Health Journey: Hips & Cancer

Kipper Jones: else.

And when I broke my hip, Yep ... okay, not broke my hip. Not broke your hip when I had my hip replacement, It's like- Yes. Yep. um, but doing that and up to, like I said, up to 2014, 2015. Acting a fool eating late at night. Mm ...Don't rest. I wasn't working out smoking, whatever and everything and just hanging out. And my blood pressure was through the roof and my doctor was like, okay, so there's a couple things that can happen.

Um, but first I'ma give you this pill and we gonna start there. Mm-hmm. And it was just a hydrochlorothiazide, what they call it, a water pill or whatever. Mm-hmm. And I was doing that. And then it was like borderline and it kinda stayed in borderline. And I just kept taking that until finally, 2015, Mm-hmm ...I just said, stop it.

Just stop it. And I stopped smoking. I started kinda working out, but I certainly changed my diet a lot. Um, got s- a gym membership, so I was at least going. Do some cardio stuff, and my blood pressure started coming down. But let me tell you something, between then and today, cause last week my blood pressure was 121 over 67.

Yeah! I

Kipper Jones: ain't, I

ain't taking nothing. I'm not on anything. Like, you know, nothing. Mm-hmm. Right? And, so it is that. It is the lifestyle changes. It's it's the fitness routine. And, you know, just just making wise decisions Mm ...about your health. Um, uh, real quick, y- I don't know if your audience knows, but I, I also am a recent cancer survivor.

Yep. Um, so I am just three months now past, the radiation treatment.

Um, and,

Kipper Jones: and let me say

this too, while you're celebrating me, please celebrate my sister 'cause she's here too. and My sister was just finishing her chemo for breast cancer when I got my diagnosis. Mm-hmm.

Wow.

Kipper Jones: and again, fitness important. We're coming from our yoga, our Saturday yoga class that we take together every Saturday. Mm-hmm. That's, you know, we are serious about, you know, making good decisions and making good health decisions and extending the life that we have. You know, you can take it and do what you wanna do with it, but I'm gonna try to do the best I can.

You

[00:26:14] Adapting Performance Style with Age

Kipper Jones: know,

Jay Ray: So- you n- Kipper, you mentioned, um, your performing style. Mm-hmm. Talk to us about how you have had to

adjust as you

Jay Ray: have, as you are aging, because let me tell y'all something. There is a video of Kipper. In 1986, you what, 24 something? 24. Mm-hmm. Baby, he's running across the Roxy stage, singing his face off and jumping and the crowd is going crazy.

I was tired looking at him. And you, when I first saw Kipper perform, he was still doing full out routines, like the breakdown would come and Kipper is gonna two-step and dance and all of that. How, what changes have you had to make in your performing

style?

Kipper Jones: Uh, and thank you for that too, 'cause that, I was tired watching it myself.

I was like, good Lord, boy. Um, and remind me to show you the Soul Train clip before we leave. Oh,

Jay Ray: yes, yes, yes.

Oh, it's so- Oh, we gotta all see that. Okay,

Kipper Jones: so, um, but you have to respect your limitations. Um, and that's been hard for me. I, I, I'm, I'm glad I'm amongst friends in this room. That's been hard for me. Um, s- since 2015.

2016, right hip replacement. 2018, left hip replacement. And then the cancer diagnosis and yada, yada, yada. Um, I don't have my, um, I'm not, I'm not working with the band on a regular basis right now, Mm-hmm. but there are still some musical performances that I'm doing and they're coming up and, and that kinda thing.

But uh, so was it, I think it was Sonny, yeah, Sonny called me and asked me to do that gig with him Yes ... uh, a few months ago and I was like, yeah, you know what, it's time for me to start, you know, getting back out and doing the thing. Let me tell you something. Woo! It's more than a notion. And, and I, that's when I realized I was like, no, you've really gotta respect your limitations, uh, the older that you get.

Yeah, I was running and jumping and flying and all that kinda stuff. And so was Prince. Ooh. Mm. um, so was Michael Jackson. So was Michael Jackson. Um, uh, Prince even to a, to more of a degree, Mm ...cause he was, Prince's physicality Mm-hmm ...was, just out of this world. All that splitting and bouncing and turning and jumping

and hopping off the speaker

DJ Sir Daniel: stacks.

Hopping off, hopping off the piano in a six-inch- Yeah ...

Kipper Jones: boot. come on. Yeah, Yeah, in those, in those man lifters. Yeah. I mean, that was a lot on his hips. Yeah. Um, and I, trust me, I know. Um, and you know, confronted with that situation, hip replacement, not hip replacement, in that era, that was a daunting proposition. Um, now it isn't so much. I mean, a hip replacement, like my, my orthopedic surgeon said, Oh no, man, they're like tooth extractions.

So, I mean, because they do them so often and so frequently, and it's such a laparoscopic technology now. Right. Um, but. In those days, they would have to cut you and cut through muscle, and you'd have to learn how to walk all over again. And, you know, and plus there were some religious concerns. He didn't wanna... can't do blood transfusions.

They make you sign off on that when you do those surgeries. And, you know, so, it... I'm, I'm just grateful, man. I'm, I'm grateful every day that I don't have that kind of restrictive life, um, and that I've been able to make. Good decisions or m- make decisions that have kept me here this long. Let me say that. I think they was good decisions Um, And I got people like you and people like... I mean for those of you who don't know Jay Ray is not just my friend and Brother, but he's also my manager Yeah. Um, So, I mean he helps me with the madness 'cause my my I'm a, I'm an Aquarian. I'm very scattered I'm all over the place. I can create the world in 36 hours, I can do it. But uh, uh, you know, this one here kind of goes, Well, yeah, okay, but let's do this first. Right. You know, so that's, that's very cool. Um, so you know, Mm-hmm ...you know what, what it what it takes to do that. And I'm, I'm just grateful that at 60, almost 62.

And it's just funny for me every time I say that, um, that I'm still able to do that, you know, Mm-hmm. uh, and so, and people like Fitz Mm-hmm ...to help me with this physical part of it, Yeah. you know.

DJ Sir Daniel: Yeah, so we, what we, what we're experiencing here is we have, we're getting a lot of insight from someone who's in the world of entertainment and artistry.

And what a lot of people today, especially, you know, we see on social media, everybody's a critic, everybody is an A&R. Yeah. everybody. You know, Mm-hmm ...likes to add their two cents and give their experiences with interactions with artists. Mm-hmm. Right? And they can do it at the, the speed of light with our phones and you can hit up on, go on social media and say, I just met such and such and they just performed, but they wouldn't give me a selfie or they wouldn't give me a autograph from.

With your perspective of what it's like to be on stage and everything that you just talked about Can you just let the listener know? Why is it that an artist may not want to do a meet and greet or Mm ...take your selfie or give you an autograph? Especially after they've finished performing. That's

Kipper Jones: good. That's

[00:31:50] Protecting Your Voice as an Instrument

Kipper Jones: good.

Um, so Uh, an artist, you're talking about a vocalist, probably, right? Not an instrumentalist 'cause nobody plays instruments anymore.

Oops. Now, wait a minute. So- Shots fired.

Kipper Jones: Right. Um, yeah. So, I mean, at this stage, I I know you're talking about a, like a person who's like in front of a microphone and doing something.

Absolutely. Rappy or singy or something.

Jay Ray: like that. All of that.

Sing,

Kipper Jones: sing-songy. Sing-songy. melodic

rapping now, kind of thingy song stylings. Right. Yes. All of that. Right. Well, let me tell you something, man. This, this thing right here between the crown of your head and the soles of your feet. is your instrument. It is an instrument.

Andrew, I'm sure you will attest to this. Um, it is an instrument that operates in its best capacity when you treat it well and do the things that you're supposed to do. When you mistreat it, it will mistreat you. And what you don't wanna do is... Be after the show, hanging out in the lobby with the fans and having drinks and, you know, Ooh, you were so good, yeah, yeah, smoking and drinking and, you know, and all the things.

And you probably got a show tomorrow. Right. Or sometime soon, right? Mm-hmm. That you have to be ready for, that that voice that made all them so excited about you tonight has gotta be ready for the next performance. The only way, and this instrument, really only recovers with rest. You've got to shut your mouth and go somewhere and be quiet.

And people used to talk about Michael Jackson because

Jay Ray: he talked like that and it was like really comical. But he saved his voice.

Yeah.

Kipper Jones: And so did Whitney. Whenever you got it in. Well, you know, Whitney was thuggish. Yeah. I love her. That's my girl. And I can say that 'cause in the street she was loud. But Whenever she was on television, it was always very soft.

You know, she would never. You know, she wouldn't yell. Un- Not, not the Bobby Whitney, those days. the, the Realistic, Right ... real t- what do you call Reality TV? Yeah. None of that. But I mean, really, when she was, you know, sitting on the couch with Arsenio Mm-hmm or whatever. There's a, Seth Riggs, who was one of the greatest vocal instructors probably this industry has ever known.

Um, always said, even Stevie, would talk like, you know, like that. Because he always tells you to keep your voice down, save your voice, no screaming, no yelling. Don't let anything upset you so you won't, you know, that kinda thing. So, uh, it's really important that you take care of that instrument. So you can't be at all the meet and greets.

When, when Janet did all that picture stuff with people,

Jay Ray: Mm ...you know, She wouldn't, probably wasn't saying one word. Not a word.

DJ Sir Daniel: Next. Yeah. You know? It's like- And see, she's not being shady, No.

Kipper Jones: she's trying to preserve her voice. No,

no, You've got to take care of your voice. She's on a tour. Yes. And you, and you're 50-something? five, seven, Mm-hmm. you know, Right. yeah, you gotta take care of yourself.

You, and that's the other thing, man. We do not recover like we did when we were in our 20s. Mm. So it's, it's important, you know, that you really make, again, Respect the process. Respect the fact that you're aging and things are different. If I cut myself, it takes me a whole lot longer to heal than it used to.

Mm. I'm not Batman like I used to be. Yeah. It used to just heal up. Mm-hmm. You know? Now I'm worried about getting infection 'cause it won't heal.

Jay Ray: Um, Kipper, as we wrap up, you have been busy at your craft. Um, working, uh, I know on a, on a lot of projects. What stuff can you, what, what stuff can people get ready for? What can I share? You can, you can share.

Yeah, you can share. I don't even know what we're sharing. Kip is gonna share. There's an email. Oh. So hold on. I'ma, I'ma, I'ma raise this. So what are we, what are we share- What are we about to share? What are

[00:35:47] Kipper's Upcoming Projects

Jay Ray: we

Kipper Jones: about to hear? Uh-oh. is it, we got a email? What? No, okay. I am, uh, couple of things. Uh, February is Black History Month, as w- as we all know.

And I have an incredible performance that we did at the Impact Church last year, February. Um, that, uh, well, we call it the award-winning performance now of Respect Yourself, the music of a movement. Um, which we'll, Uh, repeat performance at Impact Church in February, uh, with different headline performance. It's gonna be an incredible, incredible thing. um, but the other thing though, I get to be candid. Is the new Vanessa Williams album. Um-

Ooh. it's about

to be hot in here. Yeah,

Fitzroy Smith: yeah, yeah, yeah.

DJ Sir Daniel: So, yes, did, Dwight, did we mention that you've written for Vanessa Williams? I, I thought we P- people know that, right? I don't think we really talked about that.

Y'all should know that, right?

Kipper Jones: I, yeah, I, her very first song, Mm-hmm ...The Right Stuff, The Right Stuff ... I, I wrote

Jay Ray: that

for her.

DJ Sir Daniel: Oh, so br- Do the French breakdown, please. Let them know. Oh, Je Reviens D'une Partie. Yeah, Je La Veux Venir. That's it. Yeah, That's

That's Ki- That's me

that's Kipper

Kipper Jones: Jones. So, Um, but, uh, yeah, we got a new record coming. Kevin.

Oh

Kipper Jones: Lord. But yeah, we got a new record coming. Um, three songs in, she called me and wanted to really address her dance audience. She's. Uh, been a large part of the RuPaul Drag Race community.

Mm. And, um, and now she's a host of Queen of the Universe. And so, matter of fact, we got Trixie Mattel on one of the cuts cutting up. So, it's just been a blast, man, Yeah ...working on this new stuff.

DJ Sir Daniel: we are Kipper Jones. I can't say this enough. We are so grateful that you are a part of the Queue Points podcast family. And we thank you. We're so grateful for your gift and that you shared it with the world and that you're sharing it with our audience and what it takes to be an artist and The reverence that you must have for your body to, to have longstanding and have longevity in this craft of entertainment.

Thank you so much for being a part of our very first Queue Points podcast live recording. When we come back, we are going to be joined by the. fitness master, the master trainer himself, Join. the owner of Fit360, Mr. Fitzroy Smith. After this break, this is Queue points podcast dropping the needle on black music history.

We'll be right back. Woo-hoo.

Give it

up.

[00:38:21] Radio BSOTS Mid-Roll

[00:39:21] Fitzroy Smith Joins the Show

Jay Ray: Yo, yo, yo, we are back. Welcome back to Queue Points. We are live at Fit360 in Buckhead in Atlanta. Thank you all so much for being here and having this experience with us.

And I couldn't be... One, we are so grateful to be. In this beautiful space for y'all who are uh, watching, you can see it for those who are listening. Visit the website. Mm-hmm. Fit360 is a beautiful workout facility with some of the best energy of a gym that I've ever experienced. And we are here. with Master Trainer and the owner of Fit360, Fitzroy Smith, my brother,

is in the

building.

Fitz,

Jay Ray: um, Thank you, Johnnie ...you're

welcome, man. Um, talk to us a little bit about this space. There is so much of you on the walls, in the equipment. Fitz was in here putting this stuff together. You know what I mean? Talk to us a bit about this space and what you want, what you wanted to create when you were pulling it

[00:40:38] Building Fit360: Vision for the Gym

Jay Ray: together.

Fitzroy Smith: Well, uh, after, thank you Johnnie, for, um, having this here. And, uh, I think it's really special to, um, present, um, music and fitness together. 'cause it's, it goes together. So this space, uh, was created in my head years ago. Um, after being in the industry for over 30 years, um, collecting data, so to speak, from all the locations that I used to work at and train my clients.

And, um, listening to owners who, said good things about the business and bad things about the business and I I listened and I kinda come up with my solutions for it. Mm-hmm. Um, said if this, this ever happened to me one day then I can implement these things my way. Um, being a a creative myself, artist and all that stuff I wanted to put some of that element in the gym as well and my love for fitness and just wanted to also Accentuate the piece of it that, um, would help other trainers.

Which is uh, what reason why we, it, it, it is mo- mainly a f- uh, a trainer's gym. Mm-hmm. And because I felt like I wanted a home for them to be creative. Into the space and really accentuate and really build upon their clientele. Um, and, and have a good life. Mm-hmm ...Um, like I have. Mm-hmm. Um, so I wanted to have that for them.

DJ Sir Daniel: Awesome. You know, I, I met, Fitz what, several years ago now and at the time h- he was actually training you Jay Ray.

Yo, he was training you hard and At like 6:00 AM. I would see the videos and I would be like yeah.

I... And mind you, I, I've, I've worked out with some trainers that were kind of, um, maniacal, but but, and, and f- Fitz is definitely not maniacal. As a matter of fact, I think what I've noticed is that you take a lot of care Yeah in, um, the people that you work out with or that you train because not caring about your subject, about the person that you're with, uh, not having no empathy for them is.

It's it's rude, it's ridiculous, and it just, is not good customer service. All of those things. But here we are, we're three black men, um, discussing fitness and music and, you know, recently, uh, Men's Health Magazine Mm-hmm ...dropped a very dope, um, issue that featured several different covers. featuring, Uh, at least what six, six different covers featuring, um, some of the giants of hip

[00:43:39] Black Men, Fitness & the Hip-Hop Cover Story

DJ Sir Daniel: hop.

And when I say giants, these are gentlemen that have actually that are, are very fitness focused and oriented. We've got Busta Rhymes, 50 Cent, Method Man, Wiz Khalifa, Ludacris, Common, and all of these, gen- all, what all of these gentlemen have in common is that, um, Majority of them are, there's some that are 50 and up Mm-hmm ...and then we've got, um, some that are 40 and maybe in the 30, the, the upper 30 area, uh, years of age.

But as black men, there is this intersectionality that of health and fitness that we always have to talk about. And did that. Color your or influence you to spread the gospel of fitness Mm ...as a black man. What is what was your perspective on? Fitness for other black men.

[00:44:33] Rethinking Soul Food & Health

Fitzroy Smith: I think it's really really important unfortunately That's not s- that's not what being uh, what's being presented in the in the black community because we're still trying to eat that Uh, our soul food, Mm-hmm ...so to speak.

We think it's the, it's the gospel of black people. And I gotta tell you, soul food is not the business. Mm. For It it really doesn't give a shit about our health.

DJ Sir Daniel: Oh, boy. Okay? We're gonna break some hearts

Fitzroy Smith: today. And while- But continue ...While it might taste good to y'all, your body don't like it. Mm. Okay. Um, anyway, I don't wanna beat up on soul food.

It, it, It's, it's did some good things in the time when it was needed, right? And bad food is better than no food any day. Mm. Okay. Mm. Um, however, um, back to the, the cover you, was, you were talking about, I think it's great that these artists, has, um, embraced fitness in a, in a way, hopefully not from an ego perspective, but in a way that it's, it's beneficial.

Mentally, physically and emotionally, because I think it, it fitness. I've embraced fitness in a way on all of those levels Mm-hmm ...and it has Brought me to where I am. Mm. Um, so yes, it's, it's very important. and, and, and, And as far as the black community's concerned, we need to embrace it from that perspective as well. It could be beneficial to us.

Even more so it's more than physical. It's more than emotional. It is all of those things. So instead of one, we trying to look good. We need to embrace it for a more deeper aspect of, of the, of what it really is, is the health aspect. And it's like if you take care of something from the inside, it will expand on the outside.

Mm. It will show. So what- You don't have to be like, Oh, I need to s- see myself this way. Mm. I need to look this way. I need to look this way. I need to look this way. You it, it will you will get there Mm ...if you just follow the breadcrumbs, the trail. And, and where you're motivated

DJ Sir Daniel: to go. So we, we're not gonna beat up on soul food, but food is important.

And so... You know, scrolling through in, let's just take Instagram for instance, like scrolling through Instagram, make some noise. If you have purchased something that popped up on your Instagram feed with regards to health and fitness Um, oh, so I'm the only one. , I'm the only one. Make some noise if you purchased something that came up on Instagram.

But it, it, it, there's a lot of things that people are, um, are tuned into fitness being. a craze and being a, a fad and, and coming up with different products for us to purchase, especially food. What are some things that we need to look out for? Because, You know, like I said, you scroll through Instagram and you see something, Hey, here's 50 things that you don't need to eat Mm ...that are terrible for your body.

If you just eat this or drink this, this is gonna make you Right ...feel 100 times better. Like, what are the things that we need to look out for and pay attention to when we get bombarded b- by those ads that come up on our timelines? Well, you

[00:47:35] Defining True Health Food

DJ Sir Daniel: don't

Fitzroy Smith: really need to look out for any of those things. Which, if you're, if you're focused on what, what health food really is, And you stay in that lane, it doesn't matter what they're advertising, doesn't matter what they wanna sell to you.

You just keep a blind eye and keep focused on what health food really is. Now, a lot of us are confused about what that is. I'm gonna clear that up for you right now. Okay. Health food is food that are raised and grown naturally. Whole foods. For for instance, um, Any meat, any animal can be healthy if that animal is raised naturally.

Food that are grown in, in, from the earth can, is, is healthy if it's been grown naturally. And that's it. There's nothing else to it. doesn't matter what they're trying to sell you, how they wanna sell it to you. That's what health food really is. So you can eat carbohydrates, you can eat fatty foods, Okay ...you can eat all of that stuff as long as, in my opinion, you asked me Mm-hmm ...if it's whole food.

'Cause

DJ Sir Daniel: I was gonna say, we're both West Indian, right? Both. If you can't tell, Fitzroy Smith is definitely a West Indian. Um, he, And we're West Indians and we come up with a lot of what we call ground provision, right? Mm-hmm. And a lot of the ground provision are starches. And so... And you think when, when we talk about fitness, we hear a lot "Oh, cut back on carbs, but like you just said, if back home on the islands, we, a lot of those things would come up from a tree from our backyards or things that we grow. And out of the ground, yes. out of the

Fitzroy Smith: ground, naturally out

of the ground.

Um, in in this, in this country, unfortunately our food industry has taken our lives over Mm. and they have made carbohydrates bad. Mm-hmm. And it, it is true. It is bad. Um, a lot of meat that we're consuming is bad. Because they have taken over, again, from the perspective of making money, and they're, uh, they have to use advertisement to sell it to us, to trick us, to convince us to purchase those things.

So, if you're not listening to those things, or it doesn't matter what they say on the TV or the advertisement, you're not gonna fall in the trap. Mm. Because you don't know what you don't know.

Mm-hmm.

Jay Ray: Wow. And and to that point, so one of the things, Um, this surprised me so much 'cause what Fitz just shared, when I first started, when I first met you, Mm-hmm you know, I was of the mindset like, no carbs, bad, bad carbs.

And then Fitz was like, it's okay that you have that brown rice. That's o- that's okay. And it was the first time that someone affirmed or, and taught me what it all meant and how to. Think about it. Mm-hmm. And that's the one. th- And also going back to you as a trainer, I can say this from personal experience Fitz, You are one of those folks that you'll push right?

And then, but you tr- like if I couldn't do something, you would trust that I couldn't do it. But what I would know is this. Fitz was gonna work me up till I can get to the point and I would get to the point right and then I would try and do that thing again and I'd be like, no, I can't do that thing. And he'll be like, yes, you can.

And then I would do it and be like, oh, I've made progress, but we see progress in some other way. And I just wanna thank you for one, sharing this philosophy with me 'cause I know it's helped me A lot in my life from an eating perspective, but also from a fitness perspective overall, because yeah, um, folks will have you out here not eating.

They'll have you out here not eating and working out all the time. And you were like balance.

Fitzroy Smith: Yeah. Very, very true. I mean, you, v- you know, Johnnie's a full-on experience onto not just the fitness, but also how I cook at home. 'cause- Mm-hmm ... he's cooked with me we've cooked with him. He's been in my house. He slept in my house. Yep. He's... so um, he sees full, you know firsthand how Fonda and I my life coach

r- uh, over there Has

What's up, Fonda? Has eaten and how we ki- how we live and one of the things that Fonda and I don't have is health insurance Mm-Hmm.

we never have health insurance. Mm-hmm. And we are not afraid that we don't have health insurance because we believe so much in what we eat, what we consume, and how we consume, what we, how we cook our food, where we buy our food. We were reticle, uh, before about our food bill being so high. Yeah. And our medical uh, medic- medication, we didn't have a medication bill.

Right. And it was like, wait a minute, how does that make sense? And what people don't realize that my medication is food.

That's

Jay Ray: true. I know. I absolutely know that about you. Yeah, I would. Uh, there was a shot. I don't know what it was, but there was one day I was at the house. I can't remember. Fado probably remember.

But she was like, here, have this. And I did. and I was like, what? What is this? I felt better. It was horrible going down 'cause it was really bitter, but it was great.

DJ Sir Daniel: You

know, I found that the, the more bitter something is, the better it is, for you. the better it is for you. Absolutely. But, you know, and lis- just listening to you Jay Ray, um, Describe the relationship that you have Mm-hmm ...with um, Fitz.

A lot of people, a lot of our listeners right now are um, tuning in, aren't as blessed to have that kind of relationship Mm with somebody in the industry, right? So there are a lot of people who are, and we, we were talking about this before we got on who, get on again, get on social media and I can train you. I'm a, um, come, you know, meet me here.

Um, I got, uh, you don't need that waist trainer or I will apr- supply you with a waist trainer and I'm also s- gonna supply you with a, a, a, a meal kit, right? And all kinds of things. And they, but we don't know anything about certification, Mm-hmm. um, whether who they, who they trained under or what they know for sure.

But what are the things, just give um, our listeners right now, a couple nuggets, some gems. to how they pick out somebody Sure ...that can help them on their journey. Uh, you know, a trainer or d- a class. Just some some nuggets on how they pick those things out for them so that it makes sense for their life and their journey.

[00:54:18] Choosing the Right Trainer

Fitzroy Smith: Wow, good question. Um, uh, uh, If you're looking for a trainer, you have the right to ask for their credentials. Most people don't. Um, A piece of paper is not necessarily the best form of Being a good trainer, but you can ask questions to their clients if they have, which they should have if they're good enough.

Um, if they, if, if, um, you can feel them out, get a couple of free sessions. If you can, re- you can request those things and feel them out and see how the relationship feels while you're getting training. You can ask them uh, and if you have any questions about, you know, that you need answers to, you can ask them.

See how they answer those questions. Um, not only you listen to those answers, but you wanna feel them as well. Yeah. Um, if it feels right to you, if it makes sense. Um, so there's, there's a, those are some of the, the things that you can do that, um, and, and those are strong, those are strong things. Like, especially if they have other clients, you can talk to those other clients.

You can have, pull them aside and have a conversation. Mm. Most times, you know, the the clients might say good things about their trainers. But you can also feel the answer as well. Mm. Um, and, and a free session or two free session is what, is a good way to, to, um, find out. Mm. Because you're, you're, you're in their hemisphere.

You're, they're training you. You can feel what they're, what might be wrong. How they're pushing you. Is, Are they, are they, um, like Johnnie said earlier, are they listening to you, how you feel? Mm. If you say you're, you can't do certain things or you're tired, how do they? kinda like nudge you through do to try a little bit harder or to say, okay, I get it back off Let's do something else

Mm.

[00:56:13] Being a Good Client

Fitzroy Smith: Right.

Jay Ray: You know? You, You know to that point as well so for for us on the other side Mm-hmm ...How can we also be good clients like are there ways how should we show up?

Like what are some of the things you need from us?

How can

Fitzroy Smith: we be good clients to y'all? That's that's a that's a good question because we as trainers- Amen ...we complain a lot to ourselves, of course Uh, one of the biggest thing is be on time. Oh. Mm. Pay on time. Mkay? We are a part of your expense, your monthly expense.

It's... And we live off of that, ex- of of you, you paying us. And it, it, it's a good trade-off. We're giving you something that is valuable. So it's, it's good to show that you, ex- you appreciate that value that we're are sharing with you by paying on time. Um, showing up and try, try to, you know, instead of saying that's hard, or even if you say it's hard physically, try.

Mm. 'Cause sometimes a client might say, oh man, that's hard, but they try anyway. Um, So, you know, it, it, it, it's important to, to kinda show up in a way where the trainer is can l- sit back and just say, okay, I like this client. Mm-hmm. You know what I mean? I like training this client because there's some, tr- there's some clients who just complain, complain and we, when the time come to train them, we don't want, we don't want to, there are no motivation behind training that client.

And so you're not gonna necessarily get the best of us Mm. There are tr- there are clients I have that i'm excited to train like I don't care if they pay me Mm-hmm ...I'm excited to train them Mm. Wow. because we are we're having fun. It's something we're doing constantly all day every day And so, when you have those, those clients who you're excited to train, Mm you just wanna do it.

You just, It makes, it makes your day easier.

Jay Ray: Can I ask, r- real- You know- can I ask you a fun question? Ask me any question you want. man. Okay, I wanna ask ... Okay, so as we wind down, Fitz, I'm curious. I wanna tell you, Fitz would have me do one exercise, I, I never, I hate it. I hate it. I know what you- I hate it. They are burpees. Burpees are evil. Okay. And I would ...And then he would give me a weight on top of it.

And I would have to do a burpee and do, if you watch the fitness factor video, I put one of them in there where I was doing my burpees. I was doing it too, but I hated every moment. Are there, are there, are there certain exercises that you know, people kinda hate, but you like, this is really good for them and they need to do it.

I'm curious.

Is there ...

Fitzroy Smith: Any exercise that a client hates to do, they're gonna do that

exercise. Okay. because the reason why they hate to do it is because they, it's hard for them now. It, c- it's gonna maintain, it's gonna stay hard if they never embrace it and do it. And the moment it gets easier. And it's also when they, when it, when they finally do it and it becomes easier, they feel like they've, they've win, some- they've won something.

It's, it's a big hurdle that they went over. Mm-Hmm. . And it makes them feel really good. So, just because you hate it, I'm not gonna take it away from you.

Okay.

Jay Ray: I did do my burpees and I did feel better afterwards. I

DJ Sir Daniel: did. Sidebar, mine were, um, bear crawls. Oh. Oh! The Bear crawls were like the bane of my existence. But that's another story for another day.

Fitz, Roy Smith. First of all, thank you. Mm-hmm. We appreciate you so much, always. Thank you. Um, right now there's a listener, like me, 48 years old. Um, listening to this show right now, but they haven't moved, moved in a long time. And they're kinda nervous about being out in public, exercising, being in a gym, exercising where people look fantastic already.

Um, they're nervous about how their body moves when they're out and about. What do you say to that listener right now that is contemplating making a change, but they just need that extra flick to say, Hey, you know what? I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna get

[01:00:33] Advice for Getting Started

DJ Sir Daniel: started.

Fitzroy Smith: Can I curse? Absolutely. Yes. Don't give a fuck what people say.

Get up and move. Here's the thing. Even if someone is look, you come to the gym and if someone look fit, they didn't come in fit. They came unfit. They came scared. They came vulnerable. And so it, it was the, the fact that they took a step in and decided that they wanted to change their life. 'cause the only way to do it is that.

Because we know how important, um, this element of, put- adding this element in your life is. And if you keep putting it off, putting it off, because you're getting, you're getting, um, inspired to do this. There's something in your life that's causing you to do this. So the only thing you can do is just get up and do it.

Okay? I'm not gonna sugarcoat it and be like, um, you know, go see a therapist kinda s**t. It- Get up and do it. Just like, just like if you were, if you wanted to become a doctor or have, have a career, you need to go to college, you're gonna, you're gonna sign up. Mm-hmm. All right? And you're gonna go through the four years that you need to go through to have that degree to get that job.

It's no different here. The thing is that this is super beneficial Mm-hmm ...in, on, on so many levels and, and, and it's just one step at a time, one step at a time you gotta take,

DJ Sir Daniel: Put that first foot forward. you can't be afraid. Absolutely. Put that first foot forward. Yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, this is Fitzroy Smith, master trainer and owner of Fit360 700 Miami Circle Atlanta, Georgia.

In the beautiful city of Buckhead. If you are in the city, you've gotta come by and, and check him out. And, um, please, oh, let the people know how they can find you online.

What's, what's-

Fitzroy Smith: Uh, you can find me, at, um, on website is fit360totaltraining.com. Um, IG, fit360atl- Mm

or TT, rather. Yeah. Um, which is Total Training, and Facebook as well, and all the other platforms is pretty much Fit360TT.

DJ Sir Daniel: Ladies and gentlemen, let's give it up for

Fitzroy Smith, Fit360,

and when we

DJ Sir Daniel: come back, Jay Ray, we're gonna, we're gonna wrap it up, but we're gonna, for the people that are here, they can ask a couple questions if they'd like. Yeah, we have... And/or, um, and you and I are going to tell people the steps on how they can always keep up with us here on Pr- on Queue Points, 'cause we kinda- Yes missed that in the beginning.

Yeah. Mm-hmm. But, um, yeah, we'll be right back after

DJ Sir Daniel: this.

Absolutely.

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